What if some psychological attitudes, values, & behaviors are inherited from our ancestors?  I believe they can be. Psychologists call this “ancestor syndrome.”  Demonstrating psychological inheritance is a challenge. We can never confirm what our ancestors actually experienced but there are many clues.

This ancestral project is a family tree with deep roots.  It tells the story of my ancestors who came to America by sea from the 1600s to the 1800s.  They were Dutch arriving to New Netherland, they were English, French, and Scottish settling in Maryland, and they were Palatines founding Rhinebeck, New York and Irish settling in upstate New York.   They arrived by sea and lived by rivers and bays. 

Our ancestors can provide subtle yet powerful insight into the way we think, feel, and act in the world now.

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Johannes Van Deusen

Johannes Van Deusen (1728-1803) was born to Tobias Van Deusen (1696-) and Ariaantje Muller and baptized on May 30, 1728 at Claverack, NY.  His sponsors were Pieter and Jannetie Hoogeboon, Cornelis Muller and Mareytie V. Alen.  His father was from an original Dutch family who immigrated in the early 1600s to New York and settled in Claverack, Columbia County, New York.

Johannes was the great grandson of ABRAHAM PIETERSEN (VAN DEURSEN)(1607-c  ), progenitor of Van Deusen family in America, and who was one of the Council of 12 that was the first representative democracy in the Dutch colony.

Geography probably played a large part in the meeting and eventual marriage of Johannes and his wife both of Claverack, NY.  On May 29, 1750, Johannes married Christina Delamater (Christyntje De La Matre), daughter of Gloude De La Matre and Christina Leggett of Claverack. Christina Delamater was the great grand daughter of Claude Delamater, the progenitor of the Delamaters, described as “one of the sturdy, successful pioneers of early New York. He secured lands by allotment and purchase; held various civil and church trusts; aided in the defense against hostile Indians; and by industry and thrift accumulated a fortune. He was of a determined and obstinate temperament. Between 1666 and 1673 he served four terms as magistrate” (Reynolds, 1911).

The marriage of Johannes and Christina had a legacy of influential great grandfathers whose immigration from Holland in the early 1600s created, not only a new life, but  imprinted generations to come.

1769 March 5– 1771 October 2                                                                     DELAMETTER, Gloude, of Claverack, Albany Co. Wife Christina, sons Jeremiah, Dirck, Jacobus, daughters Geertruy, wife of Johs. Mingael van Valkenburgh, Cattelina, Ragel, widow of In. Legget jun., heirs of dec,d da. Christina, late wife of Johs. van Deusen, children of dec,d son John; Cloude Delamater. Real and personal estate. Executors sons Dirck and Jacobus, Gerrit Corneliusen van den Bergh and John Hansen. Witnesses Jeremias Hogeboom, merchant, Joghim Muller, farmer, both of Claverack, and Stephen Hogeboom. Albany Co. Records, Wills L, p. 361.  Calendar of wills on file and recorded in the offices of the Clerk of Appeals

Christina Delamater Van Deusen was a descendant of Major Dirck Wessel Ten Broeck, Indian agent at Albany for 20 years, recorder at Albany for many years, former mayor of Albany and owner of 1/7 of the Saratoga Patent. Dirck also purchased large areas of land in what is now Columbia County.

Johannes was a resident of Claverack during most of his life but it seems he moved to Coxsackie, Greene County, NY after the Revolutionary War.  According to the testimony of his son Gloude, Johannes was Chairman of the Committee of Safety for the town of Claverack throughout the war.  During that time, he resided in a large brick house at Claverack which was used as a fort while hostilities continued.  Johannes Van Deusen served in the Eighth Regiment, Albany County Militia under Colonel Robert Van Rensselaer.

Johannes and Christine’s children were:

Child Born Married Departed
 Ariantje Van Deusen 11 May 1752
 Jacob Van Deusen bp 15 Apr 1754
 Gloude Van Deusen bp 6 Sep 1754 Elizabeth Muller; Angelica Van Slycke
 Cornelis Van Deusen bp 8 Jan 1758 Rachel Eltinge
 Ariaentje Van Deusen bp 15 Aug 15 1759 Thomas Van Alstyne
 John J. Van Deusen bp 14 Nov 1761  Claverack Fitje Hallenbeck 30 Sep 1782
 Jacobus Van Deusen 26 Jul 1764 Gritje Van Deusen

Christine Delamater died in 1768 and Johannes remarried Marritje two years later in 1770. They had a daughter Sara, baptized at Coxsackie, on June 26, 1774 with sponsors Philip Bronk and Maritje Vosburgh.  Sara married on February 20, 1792 Peter H. Hoogdeelen (Houghtaling).

Johannes Van Deusen died at Coxsackie, Greene County, NY and his will was dated July 11, 1803 and probated on November 6, 1803.


History of Claverack, NY 

Dutch Reformed Church Records

Hudson-Mohawk Genealogical and Family Memoirs, edited by Cuyler Reynolds (New York: Lewis Historical Publishing Company, 1911), Vol. IV, pp. 1593-1596.


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Sir Robert Ogle, Baron of Ogle and Hepple

Sir Robert Ogle (abt. 1370-1436), later to become knight, Baron of Ogle and Hepple was born about 1370 in Northumberland, England.  His parents were Sir Robert Ogle and Joan Heton.

Robert Ogle married Matilda/Maud Grey in May 1399.

She is considered a daughter of Sir Thomas Grey of Heton by Joan Mowbray, daughter and heir of John, Lord Mowbray (d.1382).  Some authorities state that her father was the son of Sir Thomas Grey and Joan Mowbray and that he married Alice Neville, daughter of the earl of Westmoreland. 

The question of the identity of Maud’s parents remains debated.  While there is no consensus across various pedigrees, Maud Grey’s parents link directly back to the Mowbray family (through Elizabeth Seagrave and John Mowbray), thus supporting a descendancy from King Edward I.    What is consistent is that Maud’s  father was a Grey (either Thomas, Robert or John) and her mother or grandmother was a Mowbray (either Joan or Catherine). 

Perhaps one of the most trust worthy references is The History of the Parliament considered “one of the most ambitious, authoritative and well-researched projects in British history.”  The History of Parliament documents Maud‘s parents as Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton in Wark (1359-1400) and Joan Mowbray.   This parentage is also noted in the “The Plantagenet Ancestry: A study in colonial and medieval families” (see references).

A Wikipedia citation on Ogle family notes:

“The Ogle line has royal descendants from King Edward I of England and King Philippe III of France through Maud Grey, daughter of Jane De Mowbray and Sir Thomas Gray of Warke; who married ca. 21 May 1399, Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, Warden of Roxborough Castle, son of Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, of Ogle and Bothal Castles. (Cp. X, 28-29) (Ref: Living Descendants of Blood Royal, volume 5, 266).”

Ruins of Roxburgh Castle where Robert Ogle was Warden

He was known as Sheriff of Northumberland & Northamshire, Constable of Berwick-upon-Tweed, Northam, Roxburgh, & Wark Castles.

Robert Ogle married Maud Grey.  There is no consensus across various pedigrees of the identity of Maud Grey‘s parents except that they all link directly link back to the Mowbray family (through Elizabeth Seagrave and John Mowbray) thus substantiating a descendancy from King Edward I.    What is consistent is that her father was a Grey (either Thomas, Robert or John) and her mother or grandmother was a Mowbray (either Joan or Catherine).

Perhaps the most trust worthy reference is The History of the Parliament considered “one of the most ambitious, authoritative and well-researched projects in British history.”  The History of Parliament documents Maud‘s parents as Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton in Wark (1359-1400) and Joan Mowbray.   In addition, this parentage is also noted in the “The Plantagenet Ancestry.”

A Wikipedia citation on Ogle family notes:

“The Ogle line has royal descendants from King Edward I of England and King Philippe III of France through Maud Grey, daughter of Jane De Mowbray and Sir Thomas Gray of Warke; who married ca. 21 May 1399, Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, Warden of Roxborough Castle, son of Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, of Ogle and Bothal Castles. (Cp. X, 28-29) (Ref: Living Descendants of Blood Royal, volume 5, 266).”

OUT The Bordley Pedigree identifies the parents of Maud Grey as Sir Thomas Grey of Heton who was beheaded in 1415 and Alice Neville, daughter of Sir Ralph Neville.  Sir Thomas Grey of Heton/Heaton was the son of Catherine Mowbray linking Robert Ogle and Maud Grey’s offspring to King Edward I.

CHECK THIS “The History of Northumberland” pedigree below connects Maud Grey to the Mowbrays by noting that her father was Robert Grey while her mother was Alice Neville, the daughter of Ralph Neville and Catherine Mowbray.

Royal Pedigree from Genealogy of the descendants of the Prichards, formerly lords of Llanover … By Thomas Gregory Smart

The problem with this pedigree by Smart is found in its chronology.  If Maud’s grandfather was Thomas Grey born 1359 and her father was Thomas Grey born 1381, her father would have only been 18 years old at time of his daughter Maud’s marriage to Robert Ogle.  More likely is that her father was Thomas Grey born 1359 and age 40 at the time of his daughter’s marriage.

While the identity of Maud‘s parents is not consistent, there does seems to be a consistency that her father was a Grey and her mother or grandmother a Mowbray.

The History of Parliament cites the following in Robert Ogle’s biography:

Sir Robert Ogle the elder (c. 1353-1409) played a leading part in affairs on the Scottish border, and in 1393 he became constable of Roxburgh castle. Not surprisingly, then, he was able to arrange an extremely advantageous marriage for his eldest son, Robert Ogle (1370-1436)… who, in May 1399, became the husband of Sir Thomas Gray’s daughter, Maud. Through her mother, Joan, a daughter of John, Lord Mowbray (d. bef. 1368), and sister of Thomas Mowbray, duke of Norfolk (d.1399), Maud was related to several members of the English baronage, while her brother, William Gray, was destined to become bishop of London in 1426, and later, in 1431, of Lincoln. At the time of their marriage, the young couple received from Sir Thomas an estate in Lowick.

Robert Ogle‘s life included documented battles, triumphs, service, and strong will.  The most striking illustration is the adversarial relationship between Robert and his brother John, who adopted his mother’s name Bertram.  The History of Parliament lists each of them as one of its members and the biographies of Robert Ogle and John Bertram detail their lifelong sibling conflict regarding inheritance.

Robert Ogle‘s (c.1370-1436) father Sir Robert Ogle (c. 1353-1409) was growing old and wished to set his affairs in order. From his aged mother Ellen Bertram (d.1403), Sir Robert had recently inherited a life interest in the manor and castle of Bothal.

Bothal Castle

First the reversion and then the life interest itself were settled upon his second son, John Bertram, to whom he paid an annual rent of £200 for use of the property, until, in 1409, the young man himself took up residence there. John, who had already adopted the name of Bertram, was clearly his father’s favorite, for he, rather than Robert, was chosen to execute the elderly knight’s will.

Another brother, named Alexander, had already been promised land and tenements in Ingram, Angrave and Tynemouth, but he died young without issue. Although Robert now stood to inherit Alexander’s share, along with all the rest of the family estates, comprising the manors and castles of Ogle, Hepple, Newstead, Sewingshields, Flotterton and North Middleton, the manors of Ellingham, Saltwick, Nedderton, Larbottle and Shilvington, and other holdings in over 30 Northumbrian villages, he still bitterly resented the loss of Bothal, which he determined to seize for himself at the first opportunity.

When Robert’s father died on 31 Oct. 1409, he had wished to be buried in a splendid and costly tomb at Whalton, but an outbreak of plague made necessary his immediate interment at Hexham.   Robert Ogle had, no doubt, already begun mustering a private army (which was said to number over 200 strong and to include a contingent of Scots), for within a matter of hours, before the funeral had taken place, he was on the march to Bothal.

Despite protests from Sampson Hardyng and Sir John Widdrington, Robert proceeded to invest the castle, to evict his brother John Bertram, to make off with goods worth an estimated £200 and to destroy other property and crops valued at the same amount.

Brother John Bertram’s strongly worded protest to the Parliament of 1410 elicited a prompt response, which led to the restoration of the castle and Robert Ogle’s appearance, under heavy sureties, before the royal council.  Even so, Robert was far too powerful a figure to suffer disgrace for long. Not only did he gain custody of his inheritance as soon as an assignment of dower had been made to his widowed mother, but he also obtained probate of his father’s will, having assumed without legal title his brother’s role as executor.

His relations with Sir John Widdrington appear to have improved, too, since in February 1410 the two men briefly shared between them a valuable cargo of merchandise and Scottish prisoners which had been wrecked off the Northumbrian coast, but which was eventually confiscated by the Crown. Given, moreover, that he was knighted at about this time and sent off on an embassy to Scotland, Sir Robert Ogle can hardly be said to have lost any of his influence at Court.

Bothal Castle

In 5th Henry V, Robert Ogle was constituted sheriff of Northumberland. In the 2nd Henry V, he was joined with Henry, Earl of Northumberland and other great men in those parts, to conduct James, King of Scotland, from Durham into his own realm.   That prince, being then, upon hostages given, enlarged after an imprisonment of some years.



In 1401, Robert Ogle was summoned with his father to attend the King’s Council at Westminster.

The Scots were defeated at Nesbit moor in 1402 and three months later they invaded under the earl of Douglas and the duke of Albany with 10,000 men.  On returning laden with plunder they were intercepted by the earl of Northumberland and his son, Hotspur, and routed at Humbledon Hill.

Robert Ogle must have been a man of great zeal and energy, for as early as of February 2, 1403, he, as Robert de Ogle, son of Sir Robert Ogle, knight, was appointed constable at Norham Castle,

Norham Castle

and justice, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for seven years.  He was on September 6, 1403 appointed to these offices for life and is mentioned as constable and escheator a few years later and appointed justice of assize on July 28, 1407, and constable again in 1410.

In 1409/10, Robert Ogle and others had in their hands the prisoners and goods of a Flemish ship wrecked at Warkworth.  His brother, John Bertram, by virtue of the remainder in the entail and by a grant made by his father, having taken and being in peaceable possession of the castle and manor of Bothal, this Robert Ogle, on the day after his father’s death, at a late hour some time near midnight, on All Hallows day, went with 200 armed men at arms and archers, partly soldiers and partly Scotchmen, all enemies of the king and in a warlike manner invested the castle of Bothal with escales, pavises, hurdises and other ordnance of war and after besieging it for four days and more, got possession of it by forcible entry, though John de Widdrington and Sampson Harding, two justices of the peace, had charged the besiegers to desist from the assault.

Whereupon John Bertram, on the 13th of February following, petitioned the House of Commons to make an especial request to the king for his being restored to the property of which he had been ousted and a writ was accordingly issued to the sheriff to take the property entailed into the king’s hands and make a proclamation at the gates of Bothal castle that Sir Robert Ogle and his men should instantly depart from it on pain of forfeiture of life and limb with land and goods, and that Robert Ogle himself should appear before the king and council to answer to the charges brought against him by the petitioner.  If he failed so to do, he should stand convicted of all the allegations brought against him.

Bertram should be restored to his possessions and have damages assessed at the discretion of the king and council and Sir Robert Ogle and his retainers should be imprisoned till they had made a fine and ransom to the king and agreed with the petitioner for damages and found sufficient sureties to keep the peace.  He appears to have satisfied the council, for on the 12th of May, he received livery of his lands and in the same month was deputed, with Thomas Grey of Horton and John Fox, esq., to treat on matters between England and Scotland with commissioners of the duke of Albany.

The negotiations do not appear to have been satisfactory, for on July 5, 1410, Robert Ogle was appointed a commissioner to raise armed men and archers to repel a threatened invasion, but in 1411 he was again a commissioner to treat for a truce, and was at Fowberry on the 20th of June a witness with John Middleton and Thomas Grey of Horton, knights.  In 12 Henry IV [1411] he was with John, the king’s son, then constable of England, in the garrison of Berwick there to resist the attempts of the Scotch.

On July 19, 1413, with Sir Robert Umfreville, Robert Ogle was deputed to treat with Robert, duke of Albany, son of the king of Scotland, to conclude such differences between the kingdoms and the next year he was commissioned with Richard, Lord Grey and others to treat for a general and particular truce by sea and land.  This appears to be the same year in which 4,000 Scots were defeated at the battle of Geteringe by a small party of Englishmen.

In a survey of 1415, Robert Ogle is noted as possessing six castles and towers.  On August 5, 1415, King Henry V, in consideration of the loyalty, industry and care of Richard, Lord Grey and Sir Robert Ogle, knight, commissioned them to treat with the duke of Albany for a general truce.  He became the same year a representative in Parliament and he received soon after a partition of the Ellingham estates which had belonged formerly to the Heton family.

This was probably at his mother’s death in 1416.  He was high sheriff in 1416 and also on March 18, 1417, when he was at Ellingham and witnessed a grant of William Orde to Robert Harbottle, constable of Dunstanburgh Castle.

In 1419, the castle of Wark, being then in his charge, was taken by William Halliburton, and the garrison put to the sword, but it was retaken by Sir Robert Ogle who led a party into the castle by means of a drain, and the Scots were put to death for their cruelty to the English.  The Scotch account says this was an act of treachery, for while they were treating for peace ladders were placed at the back of the castle by which they entered and killed twenty-three noble Scotchmen with many others.

Robert Ogle was then still a member of Parliament and had commissions to make redress of all trespasses against the tenor of the truce.  In 1422, he had seisin [Legal possession of land as a freehold estate – property thus possessed.] from Sir William Eure of half the town of Windlestone in the county of Durham in which year the Scots tried to take Berwick.

On April 12, 1423, Robert Ogle gave to Robert de Eure all the rights he had in the manor of Saltwick, and he occurs in May as the duke of Bedford’s lieutenant as captain of Berwick.

On March 28, 1424, Robert Ogle was associated with the earl of Northumberland and Sir William Heron to conduct James, king of Scotland, into his own realm with all due honour, he having been, upon pledges given, discharged from his imprisonment in Pomfret castle.  He was, on January 11, 1424, again appointed constable of Norham, sheriff and escheator in ?Norhamshire and Islandshire, and gave a bond in £1,405 to the bishop, and he occurs as controller when the west gate was rebuilt.  On the 17th of July he was made warden of Roxburgh castle for three years with a salary of £1,000 a year in time of peace and £2,000 a year in time of war, which service was subsequently extended.

Heavily damaged keep of Norham Castle

In 1400, on some unknown occasion, Robert Ogle had been made prisoner by the Scots. In February 1402/3 he was appointed by the Bishop of Durham constable of Norham Castle, and justice, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for 7 years; and in September for life.

Norham Castle

He had the King’s writ for livery of his inheritance, 3, and livery 12 May 1410, being then a knight (d1). In May 1410 he was one of the commissioners to treat of a truce with Scotland, and in July commissioner of array in Northumberland. Sheriff of Northumberland, 1417-18, and Knight of the Shire, 1419-21, 1425 and 1435- In 1419 he recaptured Wark from William de Haliburton. In 1422 and succeeding years he was a commissioner of the peace. He was lieutenant of the Duke of Bedford as captain of Berwick Castle in 1423; and in the following year one of the escort appointed to conduct the King of Scots from Durham to Scotland. From 1425 to 1435 he was warden of Roxburgh Castle; in 1426 was one of the commissioners in Northumberland to arrange a short-term loan to the King; and in 1435 sheriff of Hexhamshire. He married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436 (d2). His widow was living 22 August 1451 (e). [Complete Peerage X28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)] It is written that as constable of Norham, he received a stipend of 2000 pounds, out of which, however, he had to pay for the upkeep of the soldiers who were based at Norham.

A marriage having been arranged between Robert Harbottle and his daughter, Margery Harbottle, he, as Robert Ogle, knight, lord of Ellingham, on August 20, 1424, settled land in Ellingharn on Robert Harbottle and his wife, Margery, and their heirs for the annual service of presenting a rose, but if no heirs by Margery then forty pence at the feasts of Pentecost and St. Martin, the trustees executing a deed on the 24th of August.  These deeds being signed by Sir Thomas Grey of Horton and others. The same year the English made an inroad into Scotland.  He was knight of the shire in the year 1425 and paid 116 shillings and 8d. for his relief for the manor of Hepple and the manor of Lowick.  On April 4, 1426, he put the safeguard of the castle of Berwick into the hands of Sir William Swinburne to keep safely the Percy tower until the feast of All Hallows next, for which Sir Robert was to pay £25.309.

In 1427, Thomas Denum granted him the manor of Unthank, Rahegh Wood, near Middleton, and with lands in Chilcroft within the fields of Belford and Yesington.  In 1429 he had a grant of free warren in Hepple, and in that year and in 1434, with his son, was a commissioner for the correction of violations of the truce.  He was still at Roxburgh as Sir Robert Ogle, senior, in 1434. On May 1, 1435, he gave his son John the manor of Unthank and tenements in Howtell and Mindrum.  On August 23, 1435, cardinal Langley appointed Robert Ogle constable of Norham for 20 years.

The charter appointing him is interesting.  The lessee undertook the duties in times of peace, truce or war, he was to be constable, seneschal, sheriff, escheator, etc., to render the yearly rents of three demesnes belonging to the castle, with other sums, etc., he was to provide bed and board for the bishop’s receiver, his valet and two chevaliers and for their trenchman and other servants, for which he was to get 300 marks a year. Sir John Bertram was one of those who entered into a bond of £1,000 for the due performance of covenants.  His name occurs on the 7th of December of the same year as sheriff of the counties of Norham and Hexham.

Robert Ogle died on August 12, 1436. His inquisitions were taken at Durham on the 20th of September and in Newcastle on October 8, 1436.

He held Netherton, and also Camboise and Choppington held of the earl of Westmoreland, the manor of Hepple, most of his land being wasted by the Scots, manors and lands in Tossan, Fallowlees, Netherwhite [Low Trewhit?], Flotterton, Warton, Trewhit, Ogle, Twisell, Shilvington, Aldworth, Saltwick, Seaton, South Disington, Blackheddon, Callerton, Thirnam, Fowberry, Ingram, Eland, Tyrwhite, Horsley, Denum, Bamburgh, Newhall, St. Mary Hill, Stanley, Clifton, East and West Hartington, Fairnley, Heugh, Dalton, Unthank, Mindrum, Whalton, Newham, Morpeth.  His son was aged thirty years.

New Account To Robert Bertram, heir of the manor of Bothal, and to Gerard de Woderyngton, the king, at Newcastle, on the 25th of November, 1335, gave authority to raise and array the whole disposable force of the Morpeth ward of Northumberland, and to imprison all who disobeyed their orders. In 1343, this Robert obtained the king’s license to fortify his manor-house of Bothal with crenelles; or in other words, to fortify and convert it into a castle. He filled many public offices of eminence during the reign of Edward III., and fought with bravery in the battle of Nevil’s Cross, in which he captured William Douglas, and Malcolm Earl of Wigton, the latter of whom he was commanded by the king to convey to the Tower of London; but the Earl having escaped, the king empowered Sir Henry de Percy and Sir Ralph de Nevil to arrest the Baron of Bothal himself, and attach all his lands and goods. These were restored to him in the following year, and an annuity of two hundred marks out of the customs of Newcastle was granted to him, for his good services in the capture of Douglas. He died in 1363, leaving only a daughter, Helen, upon whom his barony and possessions descended. The lady of Bothal married first, Robert de Ogle, and surviving him, lived to marry three other husbands. John, the grandson of Sir Robert and the Lady Helen, (probably the donor of the antient font of the church of S. John in Newcastle, which font was destroyed by the Scots,) took the surname and estates of his grandmother; and was lord of Bothal Castle in the beginning of the reign of Henry VI. With the great-grandson of this John Bertram, viz., Robert Ogle or Bertram, who died young, ended his issue male; whereupon the Bothal estates, by entail, became the property of the descendants of Sir Robert Ogle, knight, and Maud, daughter of Sir Robert Grey, of Horton. In the contests between the royal houses of York and Lancaster, Sir Robert Ogle, being a zealous partizan of the White Rose, was created Lord Ogle.

Sir Robert Ogle departed this life in the 15th Henry VI, leaving issue,* by his wife, Maud, daughter of Sir Thomas Grey, of Heton, by Alice Neville, his wife, who was daughter of Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland and Werke, by Catherine Mowbray, according to Collins, eight daughters, married to persons of the first rank in the county, and three sons, Robert (Sir), his successor; John (Sir); William (Sir), from whom one account derives the Ogles of Kirkley Co., Northumberland, and the Ogles of Worthy, in Hampshire, baronets.

* Dugdale enumerates his issue thus:—

Robert, his successor.
Margaret, m. to Sir Robert de Narbottle, Knt                                                                          Anne, m. to Sir William Heron, Knt.                                                                                 Constance to Sir John Milfurd, Knt.                                                                                   Joane, to — Manors.

According to Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families Robert’s children with Maud were as follows.  A second wife Alice is not cited.  Maud is cited as being alive in 1453/4 suggesting that there was no second wife.  However, other sources suggest she had one daughter.

Child Born Married Departed
 Robert Ogle 1406 Isabel Kirkby  1469
 John Ogle
 William Ogle abt. 1412 unknown name  10 Aug 1474
 Margaret Ogle Robert Harbottle
 Anne Ogle William Heron abt. 1411
 Constance Ogle John Mitford
 Joan/Jane Ogle Robert Manners
 unknown Ogle daughter John Lilburne
 unknown Ogle daughter Thomas Lisle
 unknown Ogle daughter Matthew Witfield

Robert Ogle & Joan Heton Pedigree — Robert Ogle & Maud Grey

Robert Ogle died on August 12, 1436.  Maud/Matilda Grey is mentioned on the 22nd of August, 29 Henry VI [1428] as holding Longwitton for life.  In 1453/4 a Matilda Ogle, widow, held the tithes of Newbiggin.


A history of Northumberland, in three parts, Part 2, Volume 1
by John Hodgson, John Hodgson-Hinde

Descriptive and historical notices of some remarkable Northumbrian castles …
by William Sidney Gibson

A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct …
By Sir Bernard Burke

Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families
By Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham page 396

The English Ogle Genealogy

Genealogy of the descendants of the Prichards, formerly lords of Llanover
By Thomas Gregory Smart

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Robert Ogle, 1st Lord Ogle

Robert, first Lord Ogle of Ogle and Redesdale, (1406-1469) knight, was born in 1406.

Robert Ogle‘s parents were Sir Knight Robert Ogle (1389-1435) and Maud Grey (1382-1451).

Robert Ogle married Isabel Kirkby (abt.1410-1477), daughter and heir of Sir Alexander Kirkby, the eldest son of Sir Richard Kirkby of Kirkby, Lancashire.  The Kirkby family roots are ancient and Knightly.

Much is known about the actions of this fifteen century lord Robert Ogle:

Robert Ogle occurs in the annals of history in 1434, when he and his father were appointed commissioners to prevent violations of the truce with Scotland and appears to have been, with William Bertram, a knight of the shire in 13 Henry VI.

Also in 1434,  he was, as Sir Robert Ogle the younger, captain of Berwick, and, after laying waste the country, was attacked by the Scotch under the earl of Angus at Piperdon and completely defeated, he being taken prisoner and Sir John Ogle and others killed.

His name occurs as member of Parliament from this year to the year 1441.

In 1436. after his father’s death, he had livery of his lands in Ogle, Hepple, etc., and on the 24th August of the same year was appointed constable of Norham castle, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for 20 years.

Robert Ogle was high sheriff of the county in 1437 and in that year was commissioned to give safe conducts on the East Marches of which he was, in conjunction with Sir Ralph Grey, appointed a warden in April 1438, and again on February 5, 1439.  He was appointed to carry out the array of Northumberland for the defence of the Border in the same manner as the late Sir Henry Percy had done.

Robert Ogle, with Humphrey, duke of Gloucester, John, duke of Norfolk, Henry, earl of Northumberland, Sir John Bertram and others, was a conservator of the truce concluded with the Scotch the last day of March 1438, to hold from sun rising the 1st of May next to sun setting the 1st of May, 1447.

One matter in dispute in 1438, was the question of a compensation due to Robert Ogle on account of his having been seized and held to ransom (for 750 marks) by the Scots in time of truce between 1426 and 1435.  It was agreed that he should be indemnified with a Scottish ship which had been seized at Newcastle, but this was found to have been sold by the admiral or his lieutenant and Sir Robert was involved in a dispute with the latter which was not ended until 1442.  The wardens must then have dwelt at Roxburgh castle, for as such they are mentioned as being there on November 26, 1438.   He was also one of those, whom with Sir John Bertram, his uncle, were appointed to settle the bounds between the two kingdoms between Berwick and Roxburgh castle.

In 1439, Thomas Lyle, esq., gave Sir Robert Ogle and John Swinburne, probably in trust, the manor and ville of Felton, the witnesses of which were his uncle, John Bertram, and his brother, John Ogle, esq.  This probably concerned the settlements of his sister, who married Thomas Lisle on the 1st of February.

On the 2nd of November of 1439 as cousin of our lord bishop (Robert Nevill), he was appointed constable of Norham castle, seneschal, sheriff and escheator for life, which was confirmed the next year.

In 1444, Ralph, Lord Greystock, made two indented grants in trust to Sir Robert Ogle and others.   His name occurs at Bamburgh 25 Henry VI.   He occurs as writing to the prior to inform him that John Gisseburn, the vicar appointed in 1447, should either reside on his benefice or provide a curate, that otherwise the parishioners would pay no more tithes, the vicar being some time afterwards admonished.  

In 1448, the English made an unsuccessful inroad into Scotland.

In 1449, his two sons, Sir Robert and Thomas Ogle, were outlawed for raiding.  The same year, on a truce made with the Scots to hold during pleasure by Robert, bishop of Durham, Sir John Beauchamp, constable of England, and others, he was one of the conservators as well as when the truce was extended to August 15, 1454.

Being at Fowberry on September 16, 1449, as Robert,  Lord Ogle,  senior,  knight,  he granted to Robert Fowberry all his lands in Fowberry for life.

In 1450, he and William Bertram, esq.,  attested a charter whereby the earl of Northumberland bestowed the advowson of Leconfield on Ainwick abbey, and in August Robert Ogle gave his brother William the reversion of Longwitton held by Matilda his mother for life.

In 1452, the earl of Douglas committed excesses on the border with a design of involving the king in war, which was averted by the forbearance of the English government who sent letters to Lord Poynings, Sir Robert Ogle, the bailiff and lieutenant of Tynedale, John Heron of Ford, and Ralph Grey, that they were under no circumstances to make reprisals.

Tynedale has also been called a lordship. He was also a commissioner to collect loans and contributions, and also, on the 9th of January and 5th of February, 1453, with others, was appointed by Robert Nevill to enquire into divers concealments and nuisances, etc., in Norhamshire and Islandshire, and mentioned as receiving (?) the tithes of Horncliffe, and, in 1454, as a tenant of lands in Ancroft under the monastery.

The year 1454 saw the opening of the Wars of the Roses and the first battle of St. Alban’s.   Six hundred men were brought from the Marches, probably under the earl of Warwick, warden of the West Marches, who is stated to have caused the movement by which the Yorkists broke into the town.   The credit of which by another account is given to Sir Robert Ogle. He was also one of the commissioners appointed by the victorious party to raise money for the defence of Calais.   On the 12th of September he gave to John, his brother, the manor of North Middleton, near Angerton for his life, William Bertram, his cousin, being a witness.   In 35 Henry VI. [1457] Robert Ogle was, as he had also been for four years previously, constituted ambassador to treat with Scotland for a truce, and soon after he, William Bertram, and others, were appointed commissioners to raise archers in the county.

During the war of the Roses, at the battle of St. Albans on May 22, 1455, an extract from the book “The War of the Roses” by John Gillingham:

“For an hour the royalist defense held firm and the attack faltered. At this critical moment the earl of Warwick showed why it was he was to become known as the king maker. Seeing that the barricades could not be take by storm, he decided to go around them…

The ploy worked, Sir Robert Ogle, in command of 600 men from the Scottish marches, took the house between two inns, the sign of the cross keys, and the chequers, and broke into the market place. The blare of trumpets and the ringing war cry of A Warwick! A Warwick! announced the success of this flanking manoeuvre. The royalist in the center sounded the alarm and flew to arms, but again they were too late. The decisive breach had been made.”

“At first the king’s household put up a brave resistance, but they were in no condition to withstand the hail of arrows now descending upon them.”…   “After half an hour or so they broke and scattered.”…

“The King of England, wounded in the neck, sheltered in a tanner’s cottage, while his standard lay abandoned in the street.” …

“As soon as it was clear that the field of battle was his, York ordered the kings removal to more dignified quarters in the abbey.”…

“Less than a hundred men had been killed, mostly Lancastrians… but the deaths of Somerset, Northumberland, and Clifford suggest that York and the Nevilles had intended … to kill their enemies.”… “The problem for the Yorkists was, they still claimed to be loyal to the king… but could not free themselves from their enemies without killing them.”

On February 27, 1459, Sir Ralph Grey and Sir Robert Ogle are spoken of as late wardens of Roxburgh, so their office must have terminated after twenty years service, but Sir Robert Ogle was still escheator of Norham that yea.   In October, he and his son, Sir Robert Ogle, knight, Sir John Middleton of Belsay, knight, the prior of Hexham, and others, were appointed ambassadors to treat with ambassadors of Scotland for a truce.   He was also a conservator of the truce with the dukes of Buckingham Norfolk, and others.

In 38 Henry VI. [1460] Robert Ogle gave his son, Sir Robert Ogle, knight, and Joan, his wife, an annual rent issuing from a messuage in Newcastle-on-Tyne.   In this year James, king of Scotland was killed in his attempt to take Roxburgh, which, however, was subsequently taken.

On the 10th of July, 1460, at the battle of Northampton, Henry VI fell into the hands of the Yorkists.   On the 30th of December, Richard, duke of York, was killed at the battle of Wakefield; Edward his son, then duke of York, cut his way through the Lancastrians at Mortimer’s Cross and was proclaimed king on March 4, 1461.  The victory at Towton on the 29th following, where the earl of Northumberland and Sir John Nevill were killed, secured his throne.

Sir Robert Ogle probably took part in these battles, and Hodgson says that he was on the 16th of March of this year constituted warden general of the East Marches with large powers.  After Towton, however, Robert Ogle, with Sir John Conyers, were reported to be besieging Henry VI in a place in Yorkshire called Coroumbr.   He had a commission to take into his hands the castle of Harbottle and the lordship of Redesdale and the castle of Ford, and further had a grant for life in these estates.  He had a commission, with John Nevill of Montague and William Ogle, to array the king’s forces for Northumberland and he had another for the forces in Westmoreland.

He was summoned the 26th of July, by Edward IV as baron Ogle of Ogle to his first parliament to meet on the 4th of November following.

On the 8th of August Robert Ogle had a grant for life in the offices of seneschal and constable of the lordships and castles of Ainwick, Warkworth, Prudhoe, Rothbury, Newburn, Newburn Haven, formerly belonging to the earl of Northumberland and on the 5th of November, was appointed ambassador’s plenipotentiary of England to treat with deputies of the crown of Scotland for a cession of hostilities between the two realms.

As Lord Ogle he was appointed, the 2nd of March, 1461 (?) a justice of the peace, etc. On the 28th of January, 1462, the king granted to him and his heirs male in special tail the lordship of Redesdale and the castle and borough of Harbottle, with all royal franchises forfeited by Sir William Tailboys, including the ville of Ellington which had belonged to Lord Welles who was killed at Towton; a rent of £8 a year out of Beneley, and the towns of Shilbottle, Rennington, Gysens, Middleton and the lands called Talbottes lands in Tyne dale, all late belonging to the earl of Northumberland.

After Towton, Henry VI and his queen fled to Berwick, which they surrendered to the Scotch and April 1462, Queen Margaret went to France.   In that year Alnwick, it appears, was still in the hands of the Lancastrians, and it was taken by Lord Hastings and Sir Ralph Grey, but Robert, Lord Ogle and others are reported to have taken possession of it on the 30th of July.   After it was evacuated Queen Margaret with her General do Brezé landed near Bamburgh on the 25th of October, and the three castles of Alnwick, Bamburgh and Dunstanburgh either then fell into her hands or were already in possession of the Lancastrians. Hearing of the earl of Warwick’s advance, Margaret with de Breze escaped on the arrival of the French fleet which was afterwards wrecked on Holy Island on its attempt to get to Berwick, where Lord Ogle captured many Frenchmen with their leaders.   On the 10th of December, Alnwick, Dunstanburgh, and Bamburgh were invested under the earl of Warwick whose headquarters were at Warkworth. Lords Montague and Ogle were before Bamburgh which capitulated on the 24th of December and Dunstanburgh three days afterwards. It is probable that Lord Ogle and a part of his force assisted before Dunstanburgh after Bamburgh had fallen.

On January 6, 1463, Brezé with the assistance of the Scotch under the earl of Angus was enabled to bring off the greater part of the garrison of Ainwick which finally capitulated on the 30th of January. However, by treachery and by others, these three castles again fell into the hands of the Lancastrians, and in the early summer, Henry VI., Margaret and Brezé were in Bamburgh castle with 2,000 men, and Henry, with the king of Scots, afterwards laid siege to Norham, from which they were driven by the earl of Warwick and Lord Montague.

On the 30th of July, Margaret, her son, and Breze sailed for Flanders. In the meantime Henry VI reigned over Bamburghshire and Ainwick.

In March, 1464, Lord Robert Ogle was a commissioner for treating with Scotland for terms of peace and he was subsequently on other commissions.   On the 25th of April, Lord Montague (or Montacute) defeated the Lancastrians at Hedgely moor and on the 8th of May, they were again defeated by Lord Montague at Hexham. The 13th of June following, the earl of Warwick forced the surrender of Alnwick, and on the 2nd of that month, he with his brother Montague, then earl of Northumberland, took Bamburgh. Lord Robert Ogle was made constable of that castle and receivers of the revenues of its lordships by a patent of Edward IV in his 4th year.

In 1465, Lord Ogle had another grant of Redesdale and Harbottle which no doubt altered the grant in tail male of 1462.   On the 20th of June, the king at Westminster commissioned John Nevill, earl of Northumberland, Lord Ogle and others to treat with James, king of Scotland about his marrying with some person of the king of England’s allegiance.   Robert Ogle and Ewyn Ogle, his son and heir, granted to John do Murray, chaplain, a messuage in Great Tossan; this deed is dated at our castle of Bothal on the 20th day of October, 5 Edward IV[1466] so it appears they were wardens of this castle after the death of Sir William Bertram the same year, the heir being a minor.

The 20th of November following, Lord Ogle was commissioned with George, archbishop of York, Richard Nevill, earl of Warwick, and John Nevill, earl of Northumberland, the two latter being his cousins, to treat with Colin, earl of Argyle, at Newcastle, the 4th of December next, for the redressing of injuries which had been done contrary to the truce.  On the 12th, a truce was concluded which was to hold until the last day of October  1479.

On October 10, 1466, Robert Ogle with his two cousins above and others were commissioned to settle all affairs regarding the truce.  The same year he was mentioned as Sir Robert Ogle, knight, lord of Ogle and Redesdale and superintendent of the borough of Holy Island, and on April 20, 1467, as Robert, lord of Ogle and Redesdale, a Ewyn, his son and heir, by an indenture at Bothal, and sealed with a bulls head crest, granted a tenement in Morpeth to Thomas Spore.  On the 20th of May, granted Ewyn Ogle, his son and heir, and Eleanor Hilton, Ewyn’s wife, the manor of North Middleton.

In 1468, Robert Ogle’s name occurs as seneschal of the bishop’s borough of Holy Island.

Robert Ogle died on November 1, 1469.  His inquisitions were taken at Carlisle on the 5th and at Newbiggin on February 8 , 1470. He held Thursby in Cumberland, and in Northumberland, manors and tenements in Hepple, Ogle, Twisell, Shilvington, half of Thirnam, Fowberry, one third of Ingram and Horsley, Bamburgh, Newhall, Clifton, East Hartington, Morpeth, the lordship of Redesdale, and the castle and borough of Harbottle. Dugdale says he was summoned to parliament the 1st, 2nd, 6th, and 9th years of Edward IV’s reign [1470].

Robert and Isabel’s children were:

Child Born Married Departed
Owen Ogle 1440 in Ogle, Northumberland, England Eleanor Hilton 26 May 1467 1 Sep 1486 Stokes, England
Isabel Ogle Sir John Heron; John Rindringdon

Robert Ogle & Maud Grey Pedigree including Robert Ogle & Isabel Kirkby

Robert Ogle died November 1, 1469.  Isabel Kirkby Ogle’s will dated at Chipchase on January 2, 1477 states that she desired to be buried in the monastery of St. Andrew, Hexham.  Isabel had property in Lancashire which came to her on the death of grandfather Sir Richard Kirkby who had survived his son.  Isabel Ogle’s will was proved at Gateshead on February 5, 1477.

From the Dictionary of National Biography,

Robert Ogle and Ellen (Helen) Bertram, only child and heiress of Sir Robert Bertram of Bothal, three miles east of Morpeth, in 1343 obtained a license to build the castle there. A splendid gatehouse, adorned with contemporary shields of arms, still remains (Archceologia A£liana, xiv. 283 seq.)

CHECK ALL THIS Their son Robert Ogle (1351-1409) who married XXX Heton , and who succeeded his grandfather, was under age, and John Philipot [q. v.] became his guardian (dugdale, ii. 262; but cf. Cal. Inquis,post mortem,ii.288,319).  Bothal Castle came to him on the death of his mother’s third husband, David Holgrave, in 1405 or 1400, and he immediately settled it upon his younger son, John, who had taken his grandmother’s surname of Bertram. But the day after Ogle’s death on 31 Oct. 1409, his elder son, Sir Robert, laid siege to it, and drove out his brother (Sot. Pari. iii. 629; Hodgson, History of Northumberland, II. ii. 170). Bertram brought the matter before parliament, and the castle remained in his family until it became extinct in the direct male line. This was before 1517, when the fourth Lord Ogle styled himself ‘lord of Ogle and Bottell.’ Robert, first lord Ogle [q.v.J, however, seems to have been at least temporarily in possession in October 1465.

[Rotuli Parliamentorum; Calendiirium Inquisitionum post mortem, ed. Record Commission; Rymer’s Fcedera, original edition; Walsingham’s Historia Anglicana in the Rolls Ser.; Wyntoun’s Chronicle in the Historians of Scotland; Dugdale’s Baronage; Nicolas’s Historic Peerage, ed. Courthope; Hogdson’s Northumberland; Arctueologia /Eliana; Hexham Priory (Surtees Soc.); Culendariutn Rotulorum Patentium, p. 229, and Calendarium Rotulorum Originalium, p. 801.] J. T-t.

representatives, may have been the son (Fmdera, x. 695). One matter still in dispute in 1438 was the question of the compensation due to Ogle on account of his having been seized and held to ransom by the Scots in time of truce between 1426 and 1435 (Hot. Pari. v. 44; Ordinances of the Privy Council, v. 93,162,167). It was agreed that Ogle should be indemnified with a Scottish ship which had been seized at Newcastle; but this was found to have been sold by the admiral or his lieutenant, and Ogle was involved in a dispute with the latter, which was not ended until 1442.

In 1438 Ogle was sheriff of Northumberland, and in charge of the east march of Scotland until a warden was appointed (ib. v. 100; Dugdale, ii. 262). Little is then heard of him until 1452, when he was bailiff and lieutenant of Tyndale (Ord. Privy Council, v. 126). Three years later Ogle sided with the Yorkists when they took up arms, and brought six hundred men from the marches to the first battle of St. Albans. He probably came in the train of the Earl of Warwick, who was warden of the west march; and one account of the battle gives to Ogle the credit of the movement by which the Yorkists broke into the town, but this feat is ascribed in other versions to Warwick (Paxton Letters, i. 332). Ogle was one of the commissioners appointed by the victorious party to raise money for the defence of Calais (Ord. Privy Council, v. 244). Shortly after Towton he and Sir John Conyers were reported to be besieging Henry VI in a place in Yorkshire’ called Coroumbr; such aname it hath, or much like ‘ (Paston Letters, ii. 7). His services to the Yorkist cause did not go unrewarded. Edward IV on 26 July 1461 summoned him to his first parliament as Baron Ogle, and invested him (8 Aug.) with the wardenship of the east marches, lately held by his great Lancastrian neighbour, the Earl of Northumberland, who was killed at Towton. With the wardenship went the offices of steward and constable of the forfeited Percy castles and many of the earl’s lordships (dugdale).

In November he was entrusted with the negotiations for a truce with Scotland, and in the January following received a further grant of the lordship of Redesdale and castle of Harbottle in mid-Northumberland, forfeited by Sir William Tailboys of Kyme in Lincolnshire, afterwards called Earl of Kyme, who was executed after the battle of Hexham in 1464 (dugdale, i. 263; Wabkworth, p. 7; Rot. Pari. v. 477). To these were added other forfeited lands in Northumberland. In October 1462 Ogle distinguished himself in the dash upon Holy Island, which resulted in the capture of all the French leaders who had come over with Margaret of Anjou, except De Breze’ (Historians of Hexham, Surtees Soc. I. cix.) During the operations against the Northumbrian strongholds in the winter Ogle assisted John Neville, lord Montagu [q. v.], in the siege of Bamborough, which surrendered on Christmas-eve (Three Fifteenth-Century Chronicles,^. 157-59; WorCester, ii. 780; Paston Letters, ii. 121). It was betrayed to the Lancastrians again in the following year, but finally reduced in June 1464, and entrusted to Ogle as constable for life. Just a year later he was commissioned with Montagu, now earl of Northumberland, and others, to negotiate for peace with Scotland, and for a marriage between James III and an English subject (Fwdera, xi. 546).

Ogle died on 1 Nov. 1469. He married Isabel, daughter and heiress of Sir Alexander Kirkby of Kirk by Ireleth in Furness, by whom he had a son Owen, who is separately noticed, and a daughter Isabella, married first to Sir John Heron of Chipchase, and afterwards to Sir John Wedrington (dugdale, Baronage; Arehaologia JKhana, xiv. 287; Hexham Priory, Surtees Soc. p. lxix).

[Rotuli Parliamentorum; Calendar him Inquisitionum post mortem; Rymer’s Fcedera, original ed.; Proceedings and Ordinances of the Privy Council, ed. Nicolas; William of Worcester in Stevenson’s Wars in France, vol. ii., Bolls Ser.; Three Fifteenth-Century Chronicles and Warkworth’s Chronicle, published by the Camden Society; Dugdale’s Baronage; Archaeologia Jiliana; other authorities in the text.]


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Owen Ogle of Northumberland

Owen (Ewyn), second Lord Ogle, of Ogle, Redesdale, and Bothal, Northumberland, England, knight, (c. 1439-1486) was born about the year 1439, as he was thirty years old when his father’s inquisition was taken.

Hodgson quotes ‘Cambden’s Remains,’ p. 66, to show that ‘Sir Owen Ogle’ is often written in Latin records Eugenius Ogle.   He says this Lord Ogle styled himself of Ogle and Redesdale, but apparently only till 1472 (or 1477 ?), when Harbottle and Redesdale were restored to Sir Robert, son of Sir William Tailboys.

His parents were Robert Ogle, Baron (1405-1469) and Isabel Kirkby, Baroness (c. 1410-1477).

Life events of marriage, war, and the ownership of lands of Owen Ogle are documented here:

Owen Ogle and his father on the 20th of October, 1465, dated a charter ‘at our castle of Bothal’ giving a messuage in Great Tossan to John de Murray, chaplain, they thus seem to have been the wardens of the heir and his lands, the heir being a minor, for on tile 20th of April, 1467, also at Bothal the same two leased a tenement in Morpeth to Thomas Spore.

Ogle Castle

Owen Olge married Eleanor Hilton, daughter of Sir William Hilton, of Hilton castle, probably just before the 26th of May, 1467, when Robert, Lord Ogle, granted Ewyn, his son and heir, and his wife, Eleanor, the manor of North Middleton.  Eleanor Hilton, Baroness Ogle (post 1450-post 1513) was a  daughter of Sir William Hilton, 7th Lord Hilton (1418-1457) and Mary (Mariot) Stapleton (1417-1472). ?

On the 1st of November, 1469, after his father’s death, Owen Ogle succeeded to the title and the estates, and on the 9th of March, 1471, gave to his uncle John Ogle the manor of North middleton near Angerton for life.

In the year 1480, the English besieged Berwick by sea and land in vain, but two years afterwards an army of 22,000 men, led by the earl of Northumberland, the dukes of Albany and Gloucester, reduced it.

In 1482, a lease of Norham was granted to Sir John Middleton by an indenture dated the 25th of March 22 Edward IV,  for which Ewyn, Lord Ogle entered into a bond.

In 1482/3, Owen Ogle and William Ogle of Ogle were on the inquisition post mortem of Dame Elizabeth Burcester, and his name occurs in the Historical Manuscripts as certifying a deed without date.

Owen Ogle appears to have had his first summons to parliament in 22 Edward IV, 1482.   But a licence to Owine Ogle, son and heir of Sir Robert Ogle, and Isabella, his wife, deceased, to enter upon his lands with a pardon for all contempts, is said to be dated in the time of Richard III.

But he seems also to have been summoned the first year of that reign, 1483, and the first year of Henry VII, 1485, in which year, on the 21st of January, he had settled the castle of Ogle and the demesne lands in trust on Guy Fairfax, justice of the King’s bench, and other trustees, the following being witnesses, Peter Middleton and Robert Manners, knights, John Harbottle, John Lilburn and Thomas Middleton, esquires.

The 31st of January, of the same year 1485, 1 Henry VII., Owen Ogle is mentioned in the inquisition post mortem of Humphrey, Lord Dacre, as holding lands in Thursby and Crofton, and again as Ewyn, baron, son and heir of Robert Ogle, knight, and John Swinburne releasing to Humphrey Lisle, esq., Felton, that which they had of the gift of Thomas Lisle, but Hodgson’s date is 3 Henry VII.

This grant was a release of the trusteeship given to his father and John Swinburne, 17 Henry VI.  Owen Ogle seems to have been on the Royalists’ side at the hard contested battle of Stoke near Newark against John, earl of Lincoln on the 16th of June, 1486, the date of which is often placed to the next year. According to some, Owen Ogle is the same that Polydore Virgil calls by mistake George.  Two years afterwards, he marched with the rest of the northern nobles, under Thomas Earl of Surrey, to relieve Norham Castle, then besieged by the Scots.

Owen Ogle may have been wounded at this battle and have afterwards died of his wounds, for his death occurred on the 1st of September following.   The inquisitions taken immediately after his death were not preserved, but one was taken at Bedlington on the 28th of July, 1492 (?) when Ralph, Lord Ogle, his son, was twenty-four years of age, and one was taken at Haltwhistle on the 30th of September, 1506, when it is stated he died possessed of Bothal, Weteworth, Newmore, Pegsworth, Hebburn, Fenrother, Tritlington, Earsdon, Longhirst Old Moor, Ashington, Hepple, Bikerton, Little and Great Tossan, Flotterton, and half of Trewhit, for the service of four knight’s fees, and that he died on the 1st of September, 1486, his son and heir, Ralph, being then eighteen years old.

Eleanor Ogle married secondly George Percy, esq., who on the 4th of July, 1491, with the Lady Eleanor, his wife, late wife of Ewyn, Lord Ogle, released to Ralph, Lord Ogle, all right in the lands which Eleanor held in dower.

By this marriage probably West Herrington and Windlestone in the county of Durham, came into the family.   On the 1st of July, 1513 (?)  Dame Eleanore, widow, and Robert, Lord Ogle of Bothal, granted lands in Ainwick fields to Thomas Tood (?), prior of Brinkburn.

MOVE The Hiltons were, it is said, settled at Hilton before the Conquest, and sprung from a Saxon maiden confined in a tower on the banks of the Wear in order to protect her from a Danish chieftain, who however, eventually married her.   Lancelot Hilton is said to have lived in the time of the Conqueror.   On the outside of the chapel of St. Katherine are a number of stone shields of the Hiltons and their alliances.   At Hilton castle is a shield with the Ogle arms emblazoned thereon.

According to the National Biography,

OGLE, OWEN, second Baron Ogle (1439P-1485?), eldest son of Robert Ogle, first baron Ogle [q. v.], and Isabel, heiress of Sir Alexander Kirkby of Kirkby Ireleth in Furness, though about thirty years of age at his father’s death in 1469, was not summoned to parliament until 1483 (dugdale, Baronage, i. 203). Ogle was present on the royal side at the battle of Stoke in 1486, and in 1493 or 1494 he, with other northern barons, accompanied Thomas Howard, earl of Surrey, to relieve Norham Castle, which the Scotswere besieging. There is no record of his being summoned to parliament after September 1485. By his wife Eleanor, daughter of Sir William Hilton, he left a son Ralph, who succeeded him as third Baron Ogle, and in October 1509 received a writ of summons to the first parliamentof Henry VIII. Ayounger brother of Owen, called John, was the founder of the Lancashire branch of the family settled at Whiston, close to Prescot; that branch was in the middle of the seventeenth century represented by an heiress, who carried the estate into the family of Case of Huyton; in their possession it still remains (gregson, Port/olio of Fragments, p. 183, ed. 1817).

On the death of Cuthbert, seventh lord Ogle, without male issue, in 1597, the barony fell into abeyance between his two daughters, Joan and Catherine. But Joan, who was wife of the seventh Earl of Shrewsbury, died in 1627. Thereupon Catherine, then widow of Sir Charles Cavendish, was by letters patent, dated 4 Dec. 1628, declared to be Baroness Ogle; and on her death next year she was succeeded in the ancient barony by her son, William Cavendish, in whose favour a new barony of Ogle of Bothal had been created in 1620. He was further created Earl of Ogle and Duke of Newcastle in March 1664 [see Cavendish, William, Duke Of Newcastle]. His son, by the famous Margaret, duchess of Newcastle, died without male issue in 1691, and the barony of Ogle is in abeyance among the descendants and representatives of his three daughters—Margaret, who married John Holies, earl of Clare, and afterwards duke of Newcastle; Catherine, married to Thomas, earl of Thanet; and Arabella, who married Charles, earl of Sunderland. Bothal Castle went to Margaret, and has descended to the Duke of Portland.

[Dugdale’s Baronage; Nicolas’s Historic Peerage, ed. Courthopo; Arctueologia JEliana, xiv. 296.] J. T-T.

Owen and Eleanor’s only child:

Child Born Married Departed
Ralph Ogle 7 Nov 1468 Margaret Gascoigne

Owen Ogle and Eleanor Hilton Ogle had an only child, Ralph Ogle, 3rd Lord, born November 7, 1468 and died 16 January 16, 1513.  Ralph Ogle later married Margaret Gascoigne.

Owen Ogle and Eleanor Hilton Pedigree


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Lord Ralph Ogle, 3rd Baron

Lord Ralph Ogle, Third Baron (c. 1468-1513) of Ogle and Bothal, knight, was born about November 7, 1468.

(In an inquisition taken in 1506 he is stated to have been eighteen years old at his father’s death on the 1st of September, 1486.  However, his general pardon in 1509 from Henry VII included all offences before the 23rd of April, 1486, and a pardon granted in 1494 for all offences before the 7th of November, 1489 marks the date of his coming of age).

He was the only son of Owen Ogle, Second Baron (1440-1485) and Eleanor Hilton (1450-post 1513), daughter of Sir William Hilton of Hilton Castle, County Durham.  His mother later married George Percy, Esq.

Ralph Ogle married Margaret Gascoigne, daughter of Sir William Gascoigne, Justice of the Peace for the West Riding, Yorkshire and Margaret Percy, daughter of the third earl of Northumberland, before 1490 in Gawthorpe, Yorkshire.

Dorothy Ogle married Sir Thomas Grey after the death of Thomas Forster

Ralph Ogle, 3rd Baron‘s life is documented and certain events can be reconstructed here.  For example, he took over a castle.

Between 1486 and 1489, possibly a last stand of the earl of Lincoln’s adherents assisted by the Scotch, there appears to have been an action at Dunstanburgh,

Dustan Castle

for it is recorded that Ralph, Lord Ogle, assisted by Edmund and Richard Crawcester, bailiffs of Bamburgh, J. Manners and Gilbert Errington, reduced Dunstanburgh and took the garrison prisoners.

The fact that there was some action here at this date seems borne out from the circumstances connected with the earl of Northumberland, who was taken prisoner at Bosworth field, and after his death Edmund Craster was, in consideration of his good services, appointed constable of Dunstanburgh, the 8th of July, 1489, with the fees and wages of 20 marks per annum with the ancient advantages and perquisites of that office 502.  His name occurs as a witness in 1492, and also with Robert Ogle in a charter given in the Newminster Abbey Cartulary, 7 Henry VII.  

Collins says that Polydore, Virgil and other historians called one of the Lords Ogle, George; and that lie marched with the rest of the northern barons under the earl of Surrey against the Scots in 9 Henry VII, and this appears to be the date when a force of 20,000 was assembled under the earl of Surrey, including Lord Ogle, and advanced against the Scots who were besieging Norham, but that they retired on the approach of the English who afterwards took Coldstream, Hutton Hall, Edrington, Foulden and Ayton.

Collins however, gives the date four years later, and so does Hall, who says that in 13 Henry VII., Ralph, earl of Westmoreland, George, Lord Lumley, George, Lord Ogle, Sir William Gascoigne, etc., under the earl of Surrey, relieved Norham besieged by the Scots, but it seems that in this year a truce was concluded with the Scotch which was nearly broken by an accidental quarrel between some Scots and English of the garrison of Norham, when several of the former were killed. Hodgson Hinde however, gives 1497 as the date of the relief of Norham.   

On the 1st of March, 1199, bishop Fox granted this Lord Ogle a pardon on entering the manor of Netherton.

In 1503 Lord Ogle accompanied Princess Margaret on her way into Scotland to her marriage with James IV, king of Scotland.

In 21 Henry VII, Sir Humphrey Lisle made some grants to Lord Ogle which may have concerned the marriage settlements of his son Humphrey and Lord Ogle’s daughter.

Owing to Henry VII‘s method of hardly ever assembling a parliament, Lord Ogle was not summoned until the first year of Henry VIII’s reign, and he was also summoned in the third year of the same reign.

Lord Ogle’s name occurs in a list of fortresses in Northumberland dated the 21st of August, 1509, which includes a list of holds and townships which were to lay in garrisons at the beginning of Henry VIII’s reign, and his places of Ingram and Hepple were to be garrisoned with 40 and 20 men respectively.

On the 10th of October, 1510, Lord Ogle gave his son William the manor of La Hirst near Woodhorne.

On the 3rd of January, 1512, Christopher Ward and Robert Plompton, knights released to Lord Ogle the castle of Ogle and the demesne lands which they held together with Guy Fairfax by a charter dated the 21st of January, 1485.

On the 3 of June of 1512, as the right honorable the Lord Ogle and Bothal, he granted Robert, his son and heir, the whole demesne of the castle of Ogle for ten years, with remainder to Margaret, the mother of Robert.

Lord Ralph Ogle died in January 1513 at age 44 and was buried in St. Andrew’s Church, Bothal, under a tombstone.

Contains Lord Ralph Ogle’s alabaster tomb — photo by Ray Urwin©

His inquisitions were taken at Morpeth on the 16th of March 1513 and at Durham on the 25th of April following, where it is shown he held Bothal, Whitworth, Pigsworth, Tritlington, Longhirst, Ashington, also the third part of Ingram, Little Tossan, Bikerton, Warton, all in the barony of Hepple, also Saltwick, Horsley, Stanton Sheles, lands, etc. in Morpeth, Bolsdon, Ponteland, Woodhorne, Seton, Heugh.  

Before his death he enfeoffed Thomas Forster of Adderstone and John Heron (probably his son-in-law and first cousin) in the manor of Ogle, lands, etc., in Whalton, Fenrother, Clayfern, Old moor, Wellclose, Flotterton, Sharperton, Shipbanks, Thirnam, Foxdene, Middleton-morell, Druridge, Newham, Longwitton and Hurst.   He gave William, his son, Twisell, the fourth part of South Dissington and Tossan, for life, and to his son, John, a fourth part of South Dissington, for life.   In the bishoprick he held Netherton, land in Camboise, Choppington, Windlestone and West Herrington, the two last of which lie left to his son, John, for life.

On June 10, 1515, Ralph’s son granted Margaret Gascoigne all lands in Hurst near Woodhorne which her husband Ralph Ogle had with the remainder to going Ralph’s other son William.  Margaret Gascoigne gave an annuity to her kinswoman Isabel, wife of Gilbert Ogle.

On the 6th of July, 1516, she consented to a grant of the manor of Horton.   She is mentioned in 1527 as Dame Margaret Ogele and as living in 1515/16.   Her effigy is on Lord Ogle’s tomb at Bothal, on which the impaled arms show those of Gascoigne, Mowbray, Butler and Nevill.

Ralph & Margaret Ogle’s Alabaster tomb — Bothal Church

Ralph and Margaret’s children:

Child Born Married Departed
Robert Ogle c. 1490 Anne Lumley btw 28 Sep 1530 – 26 Jan 1532
William Ogle Margaret Delaval
John Ogle
Anne Ogle Humphrey  Lisle; Sir John Delaval
Dorothy Ogle c. 1487, Englingham, Northumberland, England Thomas Forster c. 1504; Thomas Grey c. 1528
Margery Ogle c. 1506 George Harbottle 25 Jul 1548

In the nave of Bothal Church, there are alabaster effigies of Lord Ralph Ogle, and Lady Margaret Gascoigne. The tomb on which they are placed is built against the south-east pier of the chancel arch, and is spanned by the first arch from the nave into the aisle. There is a great castle in now ruins close by and the church is partly buried in accumulations of soil.  It suggests that they once lived in the castle and attended the church were they now rest eternally.



A genealogical history of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited, and extinct …
By Sir Bernard Burke

The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. X, p. 32-34

Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 350

English Ogle Genealogy

The Cornhill magazine, Volume 25 by George Smith

Life in Northumberland during the sixteenth century, Volume 20
By William Weaver Tomlinson, p. 166

Archaeologia aeliana, or, Miscellaneous tracts relating to antiquity, Volume 19
by Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne

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Geoffrey Proctor of Nether Bordley

Geoffrey Proctor (c.1450-1524) was born in Nether Bordley in Craven.  The Proctor family was associated with Fountains Abbey, orginally founded in 1132.

According to Proctor family research, Geoffrey Proctor is one of the earliest known Proctors — he is first mentioned in the “History Of Northumberland.”  His first wife Katherine (family unknown) was named in a deed in 21 Henry VII with Geoffrey circa 1506.

Geoffrey and Katharine had four sons:

Child Born Married Departed
William Proctor Isabel Lilburn
Robert Proctor before 1524
Richard Proctor
Henry Proctor before 1524

It seems that the Proctors built up their considerable wealth as tenants of Fountains Abbey.  This is evidenced by the 1524 WILL of Geoffrey Proctor of Bordley (found in the link).  The will is printed in the 5th volume of the Surtees Society’s Publications.  According to “Craven and the Northwest Highlands” by Harry Speight, 1892:  “It is a quaint document, singularly elucidatory of the life and habits of the higher class of Craven yeomanry of the 15th and 16th centuries.”

Geoffrey Proctor was Auditor to Henry, Earl of Northumberland, a position analogous to an agent who is responsible for doing business for someone and all their business affairs.

According to Geoffrey’s will, he requested that his heirs provide living essentials to a priest to maintain the chapel of Bordley and provide mass for the inhabitants there.  He specifically asked for  prayers for the souls of his family and others whom he listed.

Item I will that my son, or his heires, or other of my childer afore namyd that dwellith at Bordley in tyme commyng, have the challes, Messe buke, and al the vestymentes, and other ornamentis belongyng to the chapell of Bordley ; and that thei shall, duryng theire lives, gif mete, drynke, and logying to a preist, continually mynystryng Divine service in the saide chapell ; and his wages, that will not be had of the inhabitantes within the lordship of Bordley, to be borne at the costes and charges of hym or them that shalbe dwellyng at Bordley aforsade for the tyme beyng, if he or thei be of habilitie and power soo to doo ; and the saide preist to saye Messe, according to the ordre above appoyntted for the preist that shalbe at Riliston, and to pray for the saules of fader and moder, my wiffe’s fader and moder, and for the saulles of me and my wif, my sones, Sir Henry, Roberte, and William, my suster Alicie West, and my doughtour in law Isabell Proctour, and for the saulles of suche other as I maide a bill of ther names and delyvered to Sir John Grene the same bill.

After Geoffrey’s wife Katherine died, he married Margaret (family unknown).  By the year 1524 when Geoffrey died, only one of his four sons was still alive.


THE WILL OF GEOFFREY PROCTER OF BORDLEY. [Reg. Test. ix. 329.] From Wills from the Registry at York, Vol 5, published in 1884 by The Surtees Society, Vol LXXXIX

JW Morkill’s “The Parish of Kirkby Malhamdale”  edited abstract

Rulers and ruled in late medieval England

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Sir Roger Grey of Horton

Sir Roger GREY (1475-1541) of Horton, knighted 1518, was born in 1475.  His father was Sir Thomas Grey of Horton (c. 1455-) and his mother was a member of the Fenwick family. Roger Grey’s siblings were Thomas (c. 1480), Elizabeth (c. 1485-), and Lionel Grey (1490-1542).

Roger Grey married Isabel Darcy (c.1476-), daughter of Lord William Darcy in about 1500.

Sir Roger Grey

He lived in time of violence and revenge.  There are a number of accounts of an attack, retaliation, grudges, and violence involving Roger Grey:

Sir Roger GreyAccording to Proceedings, “no other record of John Anysley’s murder is known than

what follows:

The object the murderers had in view must ever remain a mystery. We may surmise, however, without any violent improbability, that it was an act of revenge committed by Englishmen on Scottish soil, as a retaliation for some injury or affront to one of the numerous cadets of the powerful house of Grey.  No family was more widely spread, and few have had so great and long continued influence. Possibly there may have been some quarrel between the murdered man and Edward Grey,2 the captive governor of Chillingham. His murderers, if at all related to Sir Edward Grey, were but very distant cousins; the Sir Roger Grey of the text is undoubtedly Sir Roger Grey of Horton, Knight, who married a sister3 of Thomas Lord Darcy, who was beheaded in 1538. This Sir Roger had a brother Lionel, who was sometime porter of Berwick.

The two families became united towards the end of the sixteenth century, by the marriage of Sir Ralph Grey of Chillingham with Isabel, daughter and coheiress of Sir Thomas Grey of Horton, son and heir of the Sir Roger mentioned in the text.4 It would be interesting to ascertain whether the Chillingham and Horton Greys were kinsmen, or but namesakes; my firm conviction is, that future research will prove them to have been of one blood; the heraldic evidence, such as it is, goes however the other way. Grey of Chillingham bore Gules a lion rampant within a border engrailed argent. Grey of Horton, harry of six argent and azure, on a bend gules a bezant.”

Notes:  2 Sir Edward Grey, Knt., of Warke, Chillingham, and Heton. He was still an Esquire only in 1529, when he was outlawed at the suit of Nicholas Horsley, of Ulchester. North Durham, 328.
3 Her name is given variously, Jane or Isabel.
4 See pedigree in Raine’s North Durham.

Further accounts of feuds and violent emotions are found here:

The story of John Anysley, who was Constable of Norham Castle just before the battle of Flodden, affords a curious illustration of the savagery of Border feuds. Norham was taken by the King of Scots a few days before the battle, and Anysley was sent prisoner to Falkland Castle in Fife, along with another captive, Edward Grey, the governor of Chillingham. What his relations with his fellow prisoner were, does not appear; but the Greys of Horton, possibly distant cousins of the Chillingham Greys, owed him a deadly grudge. After remaining a quarter of a year in confinement, Anysley was ransomed and allowed to return home; but before he crossed the Border, he and his servant Henry Murrey were attacked and murdered by a party of English and Scotch Borderers, led by Sir Roger Grey and his brother Lionel, the latter of whom was afterwards governor of Berwick. Not satisfied with mere murder, the assailants, we are told, “did all so hew, cutt and mangle the vesages &. faces of the said John & Henry in suche wise that ther was not left the space of iij fyngers brede in no place of ther faces that was holle •uncntt or mangled.”  This little story, derived from a comparison of English and Scotch records, has been made the subject of a brief paper by Mr. Edward Peacock, of Bottcsford Manor.

It appears that Roger’s brother Lionel wanted “justice” for an assault against his brother:

The Northumbrian gentry were men after Dr. Johnson’s own heart, “good haters.” Lionel Grey, porter of Berwick, having planned the murder of John Ainsley, captain of the castle of Norham, for some offence against his brother, Sir Roger Grey of Horton, was afterwards heard to make the grim remark, “I never in all my lyf was so mery as when I hard the traytour Anysley, sittinge on his knees, crye mercye.” More than twelve years later, viz., in 1537, he was conspiring with many men of Bamburghshire and others to murder Sir Thomas Clifford, the captain of Berwick-on-Tweed, in Alnwick, or on a moor above Newstead, in revenge for his zeal in trying to bring the murderers to justice (J Raine’s North Durham, p. 309).

The will of Sir Roger Gray/Grey mentions his wife Isabel and cites his son Thomas Grey and brother Lionel as executors.  The following excerpt is found in Wills & Inventories:


Id no’i’e dei Amen: the zeir off or Lord god a thovsand fyve hwndr and xl the xiiij day off Febrwary I Syr Rogr Gray Knyght: off p’fett mynd & hole, thoft I be seke in my body maks my last Wyll irrecou’able & testament in man’ and form’ folowyng: first I gyve my sowll vnto God Almyghty: my body to be burryede in the qweir off the parysche church off belford be syds the bod* of my child’ wt the dwet’ to be done to the churche; Alsso I bequyeth to dame Isabell my Wyff all my corn wt in my come in ye zaird and barne of Dychen: the seid to furnech the grond reserued she and my huset s’uands to lyue on yt to the next terme day cawled Vytsonday: Also I bequyeth to my said Vyff all the store of flesch & fysch wt in my Hwss for my s’uands and hyr as ys afor sayd to the terme aboue named: Also I gyue & bequeth to my son Petr* the corne off Awten felds both in zard and barne; the seeds to saw the lands w1: Also I gyue my said son’ Peter xxx yowes xx hoggs aud vj kye wt their cawffs : Also I bequyth to Jhon Gray of Dychaunt fowxe off the best oxen : Also I gyue & bequyth to Wyll’m Stodr of Newton viij oxen at Dychn’t and ij kye at Awten huss or ells xx nobles in mon’y: Also I beqwyeth to Sandrson the Smythe of lowyck xx*. Also I beqwyeth to dame Bednell off Hetto’ vj*. viijd. The resydew of all my goods vnbeqwyeth I pwt the’ hoil in the hands off my son Thomas Gray 1 and in the hands off me’ browther Lyon’ell Gray * whom’ I awmyt & ordane my full executors to dyspone & ordr the same for the be awght off my sowle the brying forth and burying of my body wt the fun’all exequyes & exspenc’s to be done for the same and the paying off my debts : Also I will and com’ands yt my sad Son Thomas & my browther Lyonell see this Will abou’ said be kepyd and fullfylled: thes Witneses Ihon’ Gray off Horto’ Ihon Gray off Dychend George Ellyson : S’ Jams Fenkyll my co’fessour wt oyr off my tenands

Notes: 1 Sir Roger Grey, of Horton, Knight, married (according to the Visitations) Jane, daughter of Sir William Darcy, Knight, and sister of Thomas Lord Darcy, who was beheaded upon Tower Hill, in 1538, for having joined in the Pilgrimage of Grace. Isabel, mentioned in his will, was probably a second wife.

According to Proceedings, Roger’s wife is alternatively named Jane or Isabel.  Some sources suggest that Roger’s brother Thomas (c. !480-) married first Isabel Swinhoe and secondly, Jane Darcy.   Regardless of Roger’s wife’s name, she was the daughter of William Darcy.

Child Born Married Departed
 Thomas Grey of Horton c. 1509 Dorothy Ogle 5 Aug 1570
 Peter Grey
 John Grey


Wills and inventories illustrative of the history, manners …, Volume 2 By James Raine, William Greenwell, John Crawford Hodgson, Surtees Society

Life in Northumberland during the sixteenth century, Volume 20
By William Weaver Tomlinson

Genealogy of the descendants of the Prichards, formerly lords of Llanover …
By Thomas Gregory Smart

Institute of Historical Research –Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 13 Part 1: January-July 1538, James Gairdner (editor), 1892

Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, Volume 9 by Society of Antiquaries of Scotland

The athenaeum edited by James Silk Buckingham, John Sterling, Frederick Denison Maurice, Henry Stebbing, Charles Wentworth Dilke, Thomas Kibble Hervey, William Hepworth Dixon, Norman Maccoll, Vernon Horace Rendall, John Middleton Murrytle

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William Proctor of Nether Bordley

William Proctor  (?-1524) was born in Nether Bordley, Yorkshire County, England to Geoffrey Proctor (c. 1450-1524) of Nether Bordley in Craven and Katharine (?-pre 1524).

Embleton Parish location

Associated with Embleton Parish, Northumberland,

Embleton Parish Church

Embleton Church of the Holy Trinity has been described as a probable Fortified Ecclesiastical site. There are major building remains. This is a Grade 1 listed building protected by law.

the Proctor family, originally settled in Nether Bordley, Yorkshire, but was established at Shawdon in 1506 through the marriage of William Proctor of Nether Bordley to Isabel, daughter of John Lilburn of Shawdon.

William Proctor married 15 year old Isabel Lilburn (abt. 1485-?) on December 11, 1500.

Born atShawdon Hall Castle, Isabel was the daughter and co-heiress of John Lilburn of West Lilburn and Shawdon who owned the manors of Shawdon, Glanton and Bedford, all of which were located in Northumberland..  William and Isabel lived at the Shawdon Castle where it believed their children were born.

Child Born Married Departed
Cuthbert Proctor abt. 1509 __ Roddam  6 May 1543
Eustace Proctor
Henry Proctor
Dowsabel Proctor
Barbara Proctor
Dorothy Proctor

William Proctor died on April 29th, 1524.  Isabel’s death is unknown.

Geoffrey’s will


History of Northumberland, Edward Bateson B.A., (London, England: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Printed and Published By Andrew Reid & Co. Limited, 1895)

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Cuthbert Proctor of Shawdon, England

Cuthbert Proctor of Shawdon (circa 1509 -1543) was born to William Proctor and Isabel Lilburn.  Cuthbert was only about 15 years old when he lost both of his parents, as well as his brothers Robert and Henry.


Roddam township was raided by the Scots in 1533 and the Roddam family moved in with the Proctors of Shawdon.  As a lady of the Proctor family, either Elizabeth or Margaret Roddam married Cuthbert Proctor at Shawdon, Northumberland, England.

Children of Cuthbert and ___ Roddam:

Child Born Married Departed
Roger Proctor  abt. 1630 Barbara Gray
Catherine Proctor  abt. 1630
Geoffrey Proctor  abt. 1637
John Proctor  abt. 1638
Isabella Proctor  abt. 1640

At the beginning of the 16th century the town of Lilburn had two towers, both of which had been destroyed by 1541.  One tower belonged to Cuthbert Proctor. (It has since fallen into decay with only the walls standing).  The other tower belonged to Sir Cuthbert Ogle and had suffered from a fire. The Ogle tower is recorded as being the eastern tower. This suggests that, despite its poorer condition in 1541, the surviving tower is actually Proctor’s Tower and that Ogle’s Tower was at the site now occupied by the early C19 country house called Lilburn Tower.

West Lilburn Tower is a ruined tower house roughly 4 miles to the southeast of Wooler. Only the north wall stands, to a height of 10m. There are a number of windows and openings in the remaining wall, and the springing of the barrel vaulted ceiling can be seen. The walls are over 2m thick in places.   The tower would have been 13m by 10m, and stood three storys high.

It is now a Listed Building Grade II, Scheduled Ancient Monument, Lilburn Tower, NORTHUMBERLAND.  There is absolute certainty that it is located
Eastings: 402180m
Northings: 624140m

Cuthbert Proctor died on May 6, 1543, leaving five children age 4 to 14 and possibly his wife.  His will is recited in the inquisition post mortem, 8th February, 1544.

‘To all Crystyn men gretynge in our Lord God everlastinge. Know your universities that where I the saide Cuthbert Proctor hath made estate of all my lands, etc. in the townes and fields of Glanton and West Lilburn to John Roddam of Lytyll Hoghton the younger, Matthe Rodam of the same, etc., which dede beryth date 1 March 35 Henry VIII., the feoffees immediately after my decease [are] to make an estate to Galfryd Proctor my sonne, etc., and to John Rodam of Lytyle Hogdton. I give £20 to Katherine, my elder daughter, for her marriage portion yf she wyl be guydyd in marygge by the said feoffes,’ etc.

It is unclear why Cuthbert’s eldest son Roger Proctor is not mentioned in the above will.  Instead, his younger brother Geoffrey by about a year is mentioned.


History of Northumberland, Edward Bateson B.A., (London, England: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Printed and Published By Andrew Reid & Co. Limited, 1895

West Lilburn Tower and Lilburn Tower

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Roger Proctor of Shawdon

Roger Proctor of Shawdon (abt 1530-) was born in Northumberland, England to Cuthbert Proctor of Shawdon (-1543) and __ Roddam.  The name and parents of this daughter of the Roddam family is unknown.

To understand the context of the life of Roger Proctor of Shawdon, here is a brief description of Glanton where he lived and owned property.

Glanton, Northumberland, England

By the early 13th century, Glanton was well established as one of the dependent hamlets of Whittingham.  In 1296, a legal battle ensued and eventually the Glantons lost their land.  The Goswick family male line died in 1377 and William of Goswick’s original holding was passed to the Middleham family in Alnmouth. They sold in 1577 to Roger Proctor of Shawdon who had acquired the estate partly through marriage and partly through purchase from the Lilburns.

Thus, by the time of the Union of the Crowns in 1603, about half the village was owned by the Proctors of Shawdon, about half by the Collingwoods of Eslington and the balance by various unidentified small tenants. Village life revolved around farming and villagers had rights of grazing on common land and could also cut wood and dig peats and in time became freeholders.

In contrast to Whittingham which boasted a fine church, tower, brewhouse, mills and a smithy, Glanton was poor. The villagers shared their mud and timber hovels with their animals. The first record of the existence of a stone house was in 1588 when a crown lease was confirmed on a property in Glanton.  In the same year, Robert Proctor of Shawdon complained that the Scots in a raid had stolen 20 kye and oxen while Cuthbert Dine lost 30 kye and 2 horses. Eight years later Glanton was again sacked by the Scots, this time by the servants of Lord Cessford in a continuation of the ceaseless cross-border feuding.

Roger Proctor married Barbara Gray (1535-), daughter of Sir Thomas Grey of Horton and Dorothy Ogle.

Child Born Married Departed
Thomas Proctor
Cuthbert Proctor pre-1577 Ellinor __  1633
John Proctor
Rowland Proctor

With the marriage of Roger Proctor to a Barbara Gray of Grey and Ogle lineages, the connections to the past deepen, leading to…


History of Northumberland, Vol. 14, by Hodgson. Pedigree -“Grey of Horton”

History of Northumberland, Edward Bateson B.A., (London, England: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne Printed and Published By Andrew Reid & Co. Limited, 1895.).

Parish History

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